Spiritual Chat 14 - Expanded Version About Spiritual Chat 14
Title: "Try Teaching Your Own Heart, Not The World", Date: July 7, 2002
Chat Between: Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Smith
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Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum. May the pleace and peacefulness of God be upon us all. My love you, my dearest brothers and sisters.
RumiSmith786 [3:34 PM]:
Al-salamu alaykum, dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, are you available for a small exchange of wisdom?
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:47 PM]:
Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Wa 'alaykum al-salam. My dearest sister Rumi. Of course.
My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:48 PM]:
In the calendar for this month, for July, 2002, Bawa teaches us,
"He (your Father) is watching to see whether you are lecturing to the countryside
or whether you are lecturing to your own heart. Are you teaching the world or are
you teaching your own heart? Are you relying on the world or are you relying on
the Only One (within your own heart)?"
"The reason for asking you to speak is to judge with clarity your answers to all
these questions (that is, are you living in the world or are you trying to leave the
world and live in your own heart?), and to see whether you can be taken on the
journey which lies ahead (the journey to the heart within the heart)."
"From these words He assesses your state, and teaches you the wisdom
appropriate to it, giving you further explanations about God's state, and your
relationship to Him (which starts with the state of your Shaikh, and your
relationship with your Shaikh, with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen -
may God be pleased with Him - which is the gift of God for our age, which God
has personally placed within each of us, to the Children of God for this age,
which is each of us living at this time)."
Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:48 PM]:
Reading this today was so very helpful for this child, especially,
"Are you teaching the world or are you teaching your own heart?
Are you relying on the world or are you relying on the Only One (within your
This was the first time that I truly began to understand that everything we do is really about our own heart, is really done to our own heart, and not about or done to anything or anyone within our dream, within our world of "separation and differences" that in our ignorance we currently see and experience as existing "outside" of us. What a wonder, my dearest sister Rumi, what a wonder.
Rumismith [3:52 PM]:
Yes, this is so much of what I need to hear. Not to trust the world but the wisdom in the heart and to connect to the Shaikh in the heart.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:53 PM]:
Everything and everyone is really our own heart, not separate things "outside" of us, or separate people "outside" of us. It is all us, it is all within us, it is all "who we truly are", it is all "where we truly are", and it is all "what is truly happening" to us, within us, as our own heart.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:53 PM]:
That we are not separate from anything. That we are everything, and we must now become the Essence of everything within us, by stop acting like everything is outside of us, when in truth it is within us. What a wonder is this God of ours, and the gift of God for our age, the life and teaching of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him)
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:55 PM]:
My love you my sweet sister Rumi, you are certainly the blessing of my life. Our sharings are such a wonderful way to understand what this child already knows.
Rumismith [3:56 PM]:
Yes, we had Unity Days here at the Fellowship this week-end. Bawa is really setting up situations for me to learn within, to learn to go inside and listen and trust the wisdom within. I went through excruciating pain of feeling alone and discarded and at the same time knowing that Bawa is right there within the heart.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:58 PM]:
Next time try to comfort what within you is talking to you through the experience of "I went through excruciating pain of feeling alone and discarded", then you will be doing what Bawa said in the Calendar, "Teaching your own heart".
Muhaiyaddeen786 [3:59 PM]:
In this way, get out of the idea of "yourself", and what "you need", and get into the reality of "what is living within you" and what "they need", and this includes as living within you, God, True Man, and the Creation of God. Then you will find peace in everything that happens to you.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:00 PM]:
As long as you are caught up in what "They are doing" within you, as "who you are", rather than "who they are", rather than as the life of God, of True Man, and of the Creation of God within you, you will never see or understand God, True Man, or the Creation of God within you.
Rumismith [4:01 PM]: I dont understand, what shall I do with the pain?
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:01 PM]:
To the pain say, Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Discard the idea that what you are experiencing is "who you are", and replace it with the truth that it is just the current state of "what is currently living within you", the current state of the life of God, of True Man, and of the Creation of God within you.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:02 PM]:
Stop wanting the pain to end, so you can be happy. Let the pain be, make it what is suffering within you because of what wisdom is doing within you, so Bawa can finish what He has started within you, which is to reveal True Man within the Creation of God within you. And in this way, join with Bawa to endure the cure, to endure the pain, so you can be cured by wisdom, by your Shaikh within you.
Then the suffering becomes "our suffering", it becomes the suffering of the Triple Flame of God within us, the suffering experienced by God, the Shaikh, and the Disciple within us, that must happen when the Shaikh, joined as One with us, with the Creation of God within us, reveals True Man within the Creation of God within us, in order to complete God's intention within us, in order to reveal God within the Creation of True Man within us.
Then the pain is no longer, "our" suffering, "our suffering" as the life we see as existing in the world that we see as existing "outside" of us, or "our" suffering as "separate from" God, the Shaikh, and the Creation of God within us, causing the pain within us to change within us, from a sharp pain into a dull pain, which in truth is much less painful, because it is the Ego, the selfishness within us that makes our pain really painful, that makes what we have to experience here, in this earth world, so painful, not the actual pain itself.
Rumismith [4:03 PM]:
The reason why I want it to stop is because the awareness of Bawa is in the background when the pain is there, and I would like to have the awareness of Bawa in the front.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:04 PM]:
Then let the pain be there, but let it be there not as "your pain" but as the background to what Bawa within you is doing with the Creation of God within you, as He reveals True Man within the Creation of God within you.
Let the pain be there, but in this different way, as "our pain", not as "my pain", through the realization that in truth it is not "my pain", but rather the pain that is inherent in the lives of "separation and differences" that we have allowed to grow within us through our ignorance, the pain inherent in these lives of darkness within us, when the light of the Shaikh within us starts to reveal True Man within us, within the Creation of God within you.
Realizing that in truth the pain is God's judgement of the Creation of God within us, that in our ignorance has grown away from God within us, has grown more and more "separate from" God within us. That this is the true source of the pain that we are experiencing, and through this pain the lives of separation and differences within us are being brought back to God, back to the state of "oneness with" God. So in this way, the pain is a good thing.
In this way, we join with our Shaikh and God within our Shaikh, to endure the cure, to endure the pain required to overcome the suffering of our grave, now, when we joined with our Shaikh can do something about it, by allowing our Shaikh, and God within Him, to pass judgment upon them, upon all of the lives of darkness within us, not waiting until later, in the grave, for their judgement, when we cannot do anything about it, and we have to go with them to their judgement, and experience their judgment as our judgment.
That is the difference, my dearest loving sister. Make the pain you experience this, not something that is standing between you and Bawa, but rather make it something what allows you to become One with Bawa, and One with God within Bawa, and allows the Creation of God within you to move back into their original state, at the time of Creation, which was "oneness with" God. Do it this way.
For Bawa teaches us,
"Live with the faith that your body and soul do not belong to you, then God will
share in the suffer that comes to you."
This is the way, my dearest loving sister Rumi, we must always try to elevate all of our experiences to what in truth Bawa, and God within Bawa, is doing within us, not lower them to what we in our ignorance think we are doing "outside" of us. We must make both the painful and the happy experience that we have, because in truth they are one, about what Bawa is doing within us, with the Creation of God within us, which is revealing True Man, and about what God is doing within Bawa within us, which is being revealed within the Creation of True Man.
And we must always use our wisdom, use our relationship with Bawa, to resist the urge, the patterns of thoughts within us, that always try to bring what happens to us, down to what we think in our ignorance we are doing in the world, or try to fit our life experiences into what we think in our ignorance is happening in the world, and into what we think is happening to us in the world.
In this way, stop wanting your current experience to change, let it be, stop wanting a state that you are not currently in, to be something else, something different or more pleasant, like wanting your experiences of pain and discomfort to be changed into experiences of happiness and comfort. That is just desire. That is just the work of our mind and desire.
Instead, no matter what is happening, happiness or pain and suffering, seize the moment as God's moment, not your moment, and become peaceful through the realization that everything is perfect, perfect as it is, and try to look within the moment and see what Bawa is doing within you, and what God is doing within Him within you. This is the way.
This is why His Holiness teaches us,
"A Sufi is One who settles into stillness through the realization that
everything is perfect."
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:05 PM]:
We must learn to watch our mind and desire, rather than live within our mind and desire, by joining with our wisdom, with our Shaikh within us, with the life and teaching of our Father within us, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), we must always join with our Father within us, who is always content and peaceful with whatever is happening within us.
Try to do it this way, my dearest sister Rumi.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:08 PM]:
As soon as you don't like what is happening in your life, and want it to change, you have joined with your mind and desire. Be content with the pain that you are experiencing, realizing that God is showing you something, and Bawa is working on something. This is the path my dearest sister, not a life of happiness and comfort or freedom from pain and difficulties.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:09 PM]:
What makes the pain so difficult is "self focus", the feeling that,
"Oh me Oh my - poor me is suffering."
But when you kick it up a notch, and say, Bawa, you must be working on something within me, so Al-hamdu lillah, Allahu Akbar. Then the pain becomes what is happening to the lives within you, not to you, it becomes about something Bawa is doing with the Creation of God within you, and that God is doing within Bawa, and no longer is about you as "separate from" God, Bawa, or the Creation of God within you.
Do you see the difference this shift in focus makes in your life?
Rumismith [4:11 PM]:
Yes, this is starting to happen, to thank God and Bawa for whatever is happening in my life, and to realize it is just the learning required to set me free.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:12 PM]:
That is the way, my dearest loving sister, and when you begin to do that, do you know what will happen next?
Rumismith [4:13 PM]:
O My dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, my longing to be free and fulfill the potential of this birth is so great. What will happen next?
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:14 PM]:
The pain will get even worse, and the suffering will get even more intense, and the sense of being alone will get even stronger within you, and the difficulties will multiply, and your only friend will be Bawa.
That is what will happen next. Your whole life will rise up to kill you in every way it can, and your only protection and refuge will be God, and God alone. Everything else, and everyone else, will let you down and desert you. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Rumismith [4:15 PM]:
I have fear of wasting my time, of not using the lessons that Bawa gives so lovingly to further the growth of wisdom and freedom.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:17 PM]:
How can you be wasting your time, when "you don't exist". That again is part of your "self focus", of your, "Oh woo is me." Wisdom would never say that. That is the difference.
Remember, only God can deal with what God puts in front of you, not you. So rely on Him more and more to deal with what you are experiencing, and you rely on Him more and more by relying more and more on the gift of God for our age, which is the life and teaching of our Shaikh within us, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleasd with Him). That is the way.
Rumismith [4:17 PM]:
Yes, indeed, I already get that taste of the whole life rising up to kill me and nowhere to turn except to God and Bawa. Someone said yesterday
"The point of being in the oven is to be baked".
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:19 PM]:
Now you got it. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
We are all so blessed, my sweet sister. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Everything is always perfect. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Rumismith [4:21 PM]:
Al hamdu lillah. Thank you for the confirmation that the pain is part of the growth. I was so desperate last night. It was 11:30 p.m. and I thought to check in if you are on line and then I heard a voice inside say,
"The comfort and wisdom that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen can give you is already
inside of you".
In other words, just for a split moment I was aware of the oneness between us.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:23 PM]:
That is true, we are always together, within the One heart of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him).
Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
That is the beginning of the opening of our hearts, becoming in this way, the One Heart, the Pure and Clear Heart of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
Rumismith [4:26 PM]:
Al hamd lillah. Allahu Akbar. I like the taste. Much better than living in the maya
(the illusion) of this world.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:27 PM]:
Yes. Everything else within us, other than wisdom, which is the presence of our Shaikh within us, and God within Him, which is wisdom within wisdom, is simple what our Shaikh is doing within us.
Is what our Shaikh is doing with what is within us, which is the Creation of God within us, and what our Shaikh is doing is revealing True Man within the Creation of God within us. So keep this as the goal, what our Shaikh is doing within us, and "endure the cure", let the Shaikh finish what He has started within us, and in this way, let come whatever has to come, and let go whatever has to go, for our Shaikh to finish His work within us. Then we will find peace in our life.
This is the way of wisdom, my dearest loving sister Rumi, the way of our Father,
Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him).
Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
May we both do it like this. Enough?
Rumismith [4:28 PM]: No.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:28 PM]:
What else do we need?
Why don't you work on getting Louie a ride to the Ship, and we can talk all night long?
Rumismith [4:29 PM]:
You are my security blanket in this world.
Yes, I would like you to come to the Ship. God willing I will work on it.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:30 PM]:
And you are mine, my security blanket in this world also. That is why Bawa brings us together.
But He is the warmth and comfort of our security blankets, not us. Without Him we would both freeze, and eventually we would try to kill each other to get most of the blanket, thinking that the warmth and comfort we need comes from the blanket, not from our Shaikh. That is the difference.
Our only safety lies within His Love for the two of us, lies in His Oneness with us and our Oneness with Him, not in our love for each other. We must always both realize this.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:32 PM]:
This is what it means to live in your heart not in the world. To want to be with anyone in the world is the end of being with Bawa. We cannot have both.
Rumismith [4:33 PM]:
Yes, I know that. But still, it is comforting. It is hard work to constantly direct the thoughts in the right direction, to keep the awareness of Bawa in the heart.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:34 PM]:
We cannot have two master, either it is God or it is the Selfish Self, either it is a death within the Love of God, or death within our selfish desires. Either way we must die, the only question is when and where. Let it be now within our Shaikh, not later within our mind and desire.
Rumismith [4:35 PM]:
I lost the first half of our dialogue.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:35 PM]: Do you want me to send a copy of this chat to you.
Rumismith [4:35 PM]:
Yes please, I would like you to send me a copy, it is helpful to me to read it again and again.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:36 PM]:
Peace comes from dying now, within God's Love, not later, because if we die now, within our Shaikh, all of the suffering of our grave comes now, not later, and we get to deal with it now with our wisdom, while we are still alive, when we can still do something about it with our wisdom, with the life and teaching of our Shaikh, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), with our direct connection to God within us. That is the differences.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:37 PM]:
Try and see what you are experiencing as that, as the suffering of the grave that has come now, because you are trying to die within your Shaikh, see it as the suffering of the grave that has come now rather than later, rather than after you die in the world, rather than after you die within your mind and desire, see it as that has come now because of your love for God, and because of His Love for you. That may help.
Rumismith [4:37 PM]:
God willing, May it be a death within the Love of God, may Allah give us the strength to bear the suffering which really is liberation.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:38 PM]: No. It doesn't happen that way.
Rumismith [4:39 PM]: No?
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:40 PM]:
No. That is still a focus on the "Selfish Self", on what you want, in this case on God "giving you the strength to bear". This just keeps the idea of you, as "separate from" God alive.
It only works, our going back to God, when we give up the idea of ourselves, as "separate from" God, going anywhere, or doing or accomplishing anything, and instead, focus on the reality of us, which is God, and what God is doing within us, which is transforming the Creation of God within us into True Man, which in truth is the Oneness of God and His Creation.
Rumismith [4:40 PM]:
I realize that I have a strong desire to be free and that desire has to go too, because it is still selfish, the love for God has to be stronger.
Rumismith [4:41 PM]:
Yes, I understand what you are saying, I seem to fall into that trap again and again. Thank you for the reminder.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:41 PM]:
Yes. But it most be God's love for God, not your love for God. One has to die within us, and the other has to be born within us. One has to go, and the other has to come. That is the difference.
We as "separate from" has to go, and True Man as "one with" has to come. That is the difference.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:42 PM]:
That is the only trap there is, the idea of ourselves as "separate from" God. Everything else is but vibrations of that thought, like the ripples in the water after a rock is thrown into a pond.
Rumismith [4:43 PM]:
When I am on-line with you and you say these beautiful truths, they resonate with my heart, it seems all so easy, but living it is different.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:44 PM]:
That is true, but that is Ok. Try to remember that this is where your work happens, when you sit as the watcher, catching the mind and desire as they try to take over each moment of your life.
And as you see them, hand them to Bawa, don't try to arrest them, or deal with them, or confront them, and certainly don't join them.
That is not your work. Your work is to watch for them, and as soon as you recognize their movement within you, as soon as you smell their bad breath, as soon as you hear their horrible sounds, say, "Bawa", or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen", or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him). That is how it works.
Then you will find peace in your life, not happiness or comfort, but peace, in the realization that everything that you can be doing is being done, and the rest is up to God.
Rumismith [4:48 PM]:
Like I know with my intellect that I am not separate from God and Bawa, but like "we are all one", it has to become an experience, a constant living experience. It has to become as real as my present mind life.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:48 PM]: No. That is not how it works.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:51 PM]:
It has to become what you know to be true, not what you are trying to experience as being true.
Give up this whole area of "experience", and instead move into the world of Iman, of absolute, complete, unshakeable faith, certitude and determination that God alone exists.
Give up the idea of "Rumi" as "separate from" God, and get into God as the only thing that exists, and get into what He is doing within you, which is revealing True Man within the Creation of God.
Let Rumi end, let the idea of Rumi die, and become peaceful about the ending of Rumi, as "separate from" God, as "separate from" your brothers and sisters, and as "separate from" the Creation of God, that God has so livingly placed within you.
Rumismith [4:52 PM]:
That is very helpful about "catching the thoughts and handing them over", everything is so very helpful. Al hamdu lillah. I am fine with the work, the pain etc. as long as I am on the right track.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:52 PM]:
You can never be on the right track.
You are not going anywhere.
You, as "separate from" has to end.
You have to become peaceful with your ending.
Rumismith [4:53 PM]:
No, ( I am laughing) because you caught me.
Yes, I understand that I have to become peaceful with my ending. Yes.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:53 PM]:
Remember, Bawa teaches us, that,
"When you are there God is not there,
and when God is there you are not there".
So the intention is, "Not to be there".
And the question is, "How do I end me being there?"
And the answer is, by saying the word, "Bawa". Nothing else is needed.
Rumismith [4:54 PM]:
Dana just called to say she needs to get on the internet.
Al hamdu lillah. I am so very grateful.
Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:56 PM]:
Ok. My love you my sweet sister Rumi. You are the true Love of life, which is the open heart of Bawa, of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen
(may God be pleased with Him), the one place were we can all meet without destroying each other. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar.
May the peace, the beneficence, and blessing of God be upon us all.
My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler)
Rumismith [4:57 PM]:
Yes, what a grace, dear Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, much love, anbu Rumi
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